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. which led ted olsen -- a very prominent attorney -- to say that since nudity was preferred as prayer as a form of communication, perhaps the students ought to dance naked before the ball game. i thought that was all right unless, of course, they got naked by the dance of the seven veils which would bring the aclu down on their heads, because the dance of the seven veils refers, is found in the bible. >> host: something religion we get into. what, what have you seen in terms of the trend to have court over time, in terms of, you know -- >> guest: well, it's not just the court. that's one reason i say this book is not just for lawyers by any means. what we're talking about is the movement of the culture. we're talking about the movement of social classes within the culture. and that's reflected in the law. constitutional law isn't out there by itself doing these things. there are other forces in the society impinging upon it. now, i think it's probably true that throughout our history the court has shifted in finding things in the constitution that aren't really there according to the
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